I saw an ad on the tele for Need Him Ministries (click on the Watch our TV Spot at the bottom left) and I thought to myself, wow, this is a very in-your-face christian message. My curiosity was peaked. I found a chat link and began speaking with Casey R. The following is a transcript:
Christopher: Isn't it irresponsible of us as humans to interpret the physical workings of the universe as the product of supernatural causes as opposed to thinking logically and rationally about our place in the order of existence?
You are now speaking with Casey R of needhim-large.
Casey R: Hello
Casey R: how are you?
Christopher: Good, yourself?
Casey R: i'm doing good
Casey R: so do you know Jesus as your King and Friend?
Christopher: I used to believe in it
Casey R: what caused you to stop?
Christopher: I began reading math books (I'm a math teacher) and physics books and then that led me to interesting online articles and videos and debates that really just made me stop and think, wow, how in the world did I actually believe this?
Casey R: so you let your intellect at the expense of your spirit
Casey R: then you came to the point where your head took over?
Christopher: When I say 'this' I mean christianity
Christopher: No my 'head' has always been a part of my way of life, but I was just acting escapist when I was a 'believer'
Christopher: You are however assuming something when you speak of spirit
Casey R: Chris your here to repent
Casey R: i cant force you to do what your here for
Casey R: but thats what your here for
Christopher: No I just wanted to chat about this.
Casey R: No you relize you've mess up a bunch
Casey R: and so you came to the chat to try and strenthen your belif in how mental you are
Casey R: when really your wrong and you know it
Christopher: Wow, that's pretty bold to say of someone that you have never met
Christopher: By the way, how old are you?
Casey R: haha i worked with you for an extended period of time
Casey R: not exactly you but the same basic person
Christopher: I have never met you
Casey R: yes but there are many people like you in the world
Christopher: But not one exactly like me
Casey R: yes there is a percentage different
Casey R: i thought you were big on math?
Casey R: didnt you know that phyically there is only a small variance
Christopher: What does that have anything to do with this?
Casey R: between the genes of one person and another
Casey R: the same is with personalities
Casey R: your self righitous
Casey R: and you need to become Christ righteious
Christopher: Yes but like I said there is not one person exactly like me and there never has been and never will be
Casey R: well technicalle we can create a clone of you
Casey R: and acording to your view of life that person would be exactly you
Christopher: What makes me self-righteous?
Casey R: because you belive that your mind is everything
Christopher: It is what we can always rely on to understand our surroundings in an empirical way.
Casey R: empirical knowlege is flawed
Christopher: Really? Like this reality isn;t the real reality?
Casey R: because many things cannot be observed
Casey R: Jesus came to this earth and explained to us the relatiy of many things that cannot be observed
Casey R: he taught that there was a system of non emperical rules
Christopher: And now we get into the area that creationists always fall back on. You can't observe god because he is outside our perceptive ability
Casey R: that when follwed allowed God to rule
Casey R: in our lives
Christopher: yeah called faith.
Casey R: no you can observe God by his works
Casey R: but it does require faith first
Casey R: and by the way i'm not the creationist that your typically use to
Casey R: i've even published on evoltuion
Christopher: So I have to have faith before I can look at the beauty of the earth and conclude that god made it
Casey R: no not that kind of works
Casey R: like when he touches a body and heals it
Christopher: Can you provide me one truly unbiased instance in history of this happening where there were multiple accounts?
Casey R: yes
Casey R: when i was 5 i slit my wrist
Casey R: maybe i was 4
Casey R: it was an accident i sorda thought i was superman
Casey R: and I lossed a large amount of blood and should have died
Casey R: but the Lord had mercy on me and healed me
Christopher: Ok so how do you know jesus saved you?
Christopher: You can find many instances in the medical field where people who should have died didn't
Casey R: the doctor amoung others said it was miraculous?
Christopher: It is a word in our vocabulary that you are interpreting in a meta-physical sense
Casey R: meh
Casey R: it was meta physicle
Casey R: ok
Casey R: i prayed and the Lord increased my iq
Casey R: he made me much smarter
Casey R: more than a standard deviation
Christopher: Now your being plain condescending. Just because you looked up a mathematical definition doesn't mean I'm impressed
Christopher: I will be impressed and will convert if you can prove that jesus healed you
Casey R: i'm gviing you another example
Casey R: i was dumb and he made me smart
Casey R: he healed my brain
Casey R: he is still working on it today but each day get a little better
Christopher: No you weren't dumb, you were either delusional or hallucinating. Do not be so hard on your rational self. It is all you have.
Casey R: no i had tests run and they came out poor
Christopher: Like mentally retarded?
Casey R: as far as your concerned yes
Casey R: by someone who was professionally trained to do so
Christopher: What do you mean "as far as your concerned yes"?
Christopher: You don't have to answer that if you don't want to
Your party has left this session.
Casey R: ok so are you ready to repent yet?
Christopher: no sorry man. i have to go though. I have to get ready for a meeting I have early tomorrow. It has been a pleasure speaking with you though. I hope you can one day come to a full rational realization of your place in this world.
Casey R: uh umm sure
Casey R: when you get ready to repent
Casey R: you can get on and someone will reintroduce you to the Lord
Casey R: :) Jesus Loves you and so do we :)
Christopher: Thanks take it easy
WOW! There are a couple of things that will jump out at you right away. Grammar? Sentence structure? This is why I asked how old he was. The strangest thing was the sense I had that he was a robot, or soldier. It's hard for me to describe. Very odd. Anyway I thought it might be interesting to post this and get some feedback.